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MarkUK | |
Date Posted:06/01/2019 08:50:46Copy HTML 100 years ago today, on 6 January 1919, one the the USA's greatest Presidents died. I'll leave it to our colonial cousins to give an assessment of the man, I know Tommy is an admirer. You're playing chess with Fate and Fate's winning.
Arnold Bennett
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tommytalldog | Share to: #1 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:06/01/2019 10:30:47Copy HTML Yes Mark, T.R. is my favorite president. Born into privilege he was considered a traitor to his class by many. He was nominated for Vice-President to get him out of the way because back then the V.P. had menial duties & was a way to hide politicians. When McKinley was assassinated in Buffalo T.R. was hiking in the mountains & had to be summoned via messenger. His political opponents said,"oh no that damn cowboy is in the White House." His legacy is: conservationist (National Parks), trust buster (traitor to his class), war hero (Spanish American), made America a world power (the great white fleet, speak softly but carry a big stick), outdoorsman & naturalist.
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MarkUK | Share to: #2 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:06/01/2019 10:49:34Copy HTML If I had to point to the time when the USA overtook GB as the world's dominant power I would say it was under McKinley and Roosevelt; it went unnoticed at the time, but looking back it would be around then. Did the bullet in his chest in 1912, which was never removed, contribute to his early death eight years later aged just 60? You're playing chess with Fate and Fate's winning.
Arnold Bennett
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tommytalldog | Share to: #3 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:06/01/2019 02:26:49Copy HTML Dunno about the bullet being a reason for his early demise Mark, but it brings up an interesting point. T.R. vowed he would not run for a third term when he took office for his second term. A vow he kept when he left office. But he had second thoughts & decided to run again as a "Progressive" in 1912 & was in Milwaukee campaigning when he was shot. He finished his speech, opened his coat to reveal his blood-soaked shirt, & remarked something about being a "bull moose" & hard to kill.
The point which interests me is the nitwit who shot T.R. did so because he believed nobody should run for POTUS for a third time. Of course after T.R.'s cousin Franklin ran four times we added an amendment prohibiting such. Many think today the same term limits should pertain to congress members.
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MarkUK | Share to: #4 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:06/01/2019 07:21:18Copy HTML He came second with a 27% share of the vote, an excellent showing for a country in which there has never really been a tradition of a third party.
You're playing chess with Fate and Fate's winning.
Arnold Bennett
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majorshrapnel | Share to: #5 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:06/01/2019 07:49:42Copy HTML I like TR, as he was a straight forward, no bullshit, bollocks to that, up and at'em type, a bit like Trump. My other two favourites were Truman and Dwight D, who were good, honest, decent and proud men.
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tommytalldog | Share to: #6 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:06/01/2019 08:38:31Copy HTML Cannot argue with the Major on his other two mentions. "Give em hell" Harry truly lived "the buck stops here" & "If ya can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen" thingys. Ike was like a grandpa & we all felt safe on his watch.
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PBA-3rd-1949 | Share to: #7 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:07/01/2019 03:04:12Copy HTML What would those 3 great leaders think of todays President Tommy. Please be honest without swearing. |
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shula | Share to: #8 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:07/01/2019 03:07:16Copy HTML Teddy thought the grizzly bear should be our national emblem instead of the bald eagle which he called a "dandified vulture" (is that quote true, Tom, or am I just quoting The Wind and the Lion?). I know the part about the grizzly is true. Teddy was an Oyster Bay Roosevelt as was his niece Eleanor. Franklin was a Hyde Park Roosevelt. The Oyster Bay Roosevelts felt Eleanor had married beneath her (of course, all women marry beneath them).
"It is forbidden to spit on cats in plague-time."
-Albert Camus-
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majorshrapnel | Share to: #9 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:07/01/2019 08:54:24Copy HTML (of course, all women marry beneath them). Marry beneath them, then spend the first few years constantly underneath them. Warrrrr when I was a yung'n. |
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tommytalldog | Share to: #10 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:07/01/2019 12:44:56Copy HTML They would have thought he was a buffoon, Pete.
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tommytalldog | Share to: #11 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:07/01/2019 12:54:04Copy HTML Well Shula, I always thought that T.R. wanted the grizzly & Franklin wanted the turkey to represent the U.S. The "dandified vulture" thingy was a brought up during the Burns tribute on T.V., but it sounds like T.R. & accurate BTW. The bald eagle is really a carrion like the vulture only prettier.
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tommytalldog | Share to: #12 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:07/01/2019 01:34:08Copy HTML Further to the last: T.R.'s fascination with the grizzly bear led to the enormously popular toy which bears (pun intended) his name. See "Teddy Bear" which morphed into today's popular toy see "Trumpy Bear." This is capitalism at its very best with the POTUS endorsing commercial products.
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majorshrapnel | Share to: #13 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:07/01/2019 07:45:15Copy HTML This is capitalism at its very best with the POTUS endorsing commercial products.
Well Roosevelt might well be happy being associated with Teddy Bears but I can't see Obarmy being too thrilled with golliwogs.
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tommytalldog | Share to: #14 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:07/01/2019 08:49:22Copy HTML Golliwogs??????
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majorshrapnel | Share to: #15 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:07/01/2019 08:54:15Copy HTML Tom. go to google images and put the word in
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tommytalldog | Share to: #16 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:07/01/2019 09:02:46Copy HTML Major, another learning experience for me. Thank you so much.
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PBA-3rd-1949 | Share to: #17 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:07/01/2019 10:59:11Copy HTML You mentioned Buffalo at the first Tommy. Do you know how the name came about. I will give you a hint, it had nothing to do with Bison. |
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tommytalldog | Share to: #18 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:08/01/2019 03:09:56Copy HTML There are several versions Pete, one of which is the north American bison. The one the nuns taught was Buffalo was a miss pronouncement of the French word "belle fleuve" (spelling) by the native Indians. Bastardized it to Buffalo. Belle Fleuve is the Buffalo river which is far from beautiful river today.
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PBA-3rd-1949 | Share to: #19 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:08/01/2019 06:28:46Copy HTML The discovery of Niagara Falls is commonly attributed to a French priest, Father Louis Hennepin, who traveled there in 1678 was the first European to document them. Native Americans living in the region were likely the falls' original discoverers. Father Hennepin was part of a 1678 expedition that traveled to Niagara Falls. After returning to France, Hennepin published an account of his travels in "A New Discovery." The book brought Niagara Falls to the western world's attention, inspiring further exploration of the region. While Hennepin is given the honor for the discovery of Niagara Falls, Frenchman Samuel de Champlain visited the area as early as 1604 during his exploration of Canada. His journals describe the spectacular waterfalls that his party described to him. There is also some evidence the French Jesuit Father Paul Ragueneau visited the falls in 1643 while working among the Hurons in Canada. I imagine it was a Beautiful River when the French first seen it. For the French to be in the Buffalo area in 1604 is also something. |
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shula | Share to: #20 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:10/01/2019 02:33:03Copy HTML Before they changed their name, Creedence Clearwater Revival was The Golliwogs.
"It is forbidden to spit on cats in plague-time."
-Albert Camus-
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shula | Share to: #21 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:10/01/2019 02:35:57Copy HTML I have a golliwog doll and she is adorable; however, I thought she was an Aunt Jemima doll (and may be for all I know). Is Aunt Jemima syrup still available? I don't use syrup so I haven't even thought to look for it in the grocery store.
"It is forbidden to spit on cats in plague-time."
-Albert Camus-
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tommytalldog | Share to: #22 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:10/01/2019 03:03:38Copy HTML Funny you mention that, Shula. Right after my learning experience I was at an auction & there was a doll which I would have considered "black Americana." A lady at the auction said the Brits call her a "golliwog." All this in a week "by golly." Pun intended.
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MarkUK | Share to: #23 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:10/01/2019 06:32:07Copy HTML You're playing chess with Fate and Fate's winning.
Arnold Bennett
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PBA-3rd-1949 | Share to: #24 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:10/01/2019 11:46:16Copy HTML Is Aunt Jemima syrup still available? I don't use syrup so I haven't even thought to look for it in the grocery store. It's funny that you mention syrup Shula because not 5 minutes ago I took a slug of real Maple syrup right from the bottle it came in. ( A Canadian thing) I let the granddaughter do the same and after the first she had to come back and have another one. Makes you want to go out and cut down a whole forest. I'm not into pancakes much but most people still use Aunt Jemima as a subtitute syrup for Maple syrup. Still made by Quaker Oats but the bottle has been modernized for today's users by an up-dated Aunt. |
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PBA-3rd-1949 | Share to: #25 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:10/01/2019 11:52:53Copy HTML Before they changed their name, Creedence Clearwater Revival was The Golliwogs. Is there no end to this abuse, now she's bad mouthing one of my favourite groups. As kids we called tadpoles in a group Golliwogs |
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tommytalldog | Share to: #26 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:11/01/2019 02:50:28Copy HTML Aunt Jemima, Mrs. Butterworth, Log Cabin & the like are all corn syrup. There is nothing like real maple syrup of which we have an abundance in my area.
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shula | Share to: #27 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:11/01/2019 04:46:22Copy HTML As kids we called tadpoles in a group Golliwogs No wonder all your "facts" are skewed. They aren't golliwogs, they're polliwogs. "It is forbidden to spit on cats in plague-time."
-Albert Camus-
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shula | Share to: #28 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:11/01/2019 04:51:25Copy HTML (of course, all women marry beneath them). Marry beneath them, then spend the first few years constantly underneath them. We may have started out on the bottom, Major, but eventually we learned to make it to the top and you all have been under our control since. "It is forbidden to spit on cats in plague-time."
-Albert Camus-
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majorshrapnel | Share to: #29 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:11/01/2019 03:26:09Copy HTML On my last visit to the colony of Canada I went into a market and I bought myself a small bottle of Maple syrup, which was produced on a local small farm. It was double the price of the commercial stuff but it tasted quite different, less sweet and with just a touch of a smokey flavour. I brought it home and it was gone in a few days. Next time I'll pick up a 45 gallon drum.
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majorshrapnel | Share to: #30 |
Re:Teddy Roosevelt Date Posted:11/01/2019 03:27:14Copy HTML We may have started out on the bottom, Major,
I love women's bottoms.
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