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tommytalldog
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Date Posted:11/11/2018 02:44:20Copy HTML

 The killing of journalist Khashoggi has threatened the U.S.'s long-standing ties to Saudi Arabia.  The alliance has withstood oil embargos, U.S. support of Israel (Yom Kippur War), Saudi $ funding terrorism, & Wahhabism which is the Saudi form of ultraconservative Islam & worldwide jihadism around the world, as long as the radicals did not blow up targets inside Saudi Arabia & the Saudis being a critical $ support base for al Qaida & the Taliban. Then there was the majority of Saudi terrorists who blew up the World Trade Center in 2001. So the murder of some lone journalist will not tip the scales of the Saudi/U.S. relationship of scads of trade $.

When did the alliance start? It goes way back to the 1930's when some feller name Saud consolidated squabbling Arab tribes into a kingdom. U.S. oil companies had discovered beaucoup oil reserves on the Arabian peninsula & their executives asked our government to "suck up" to the Saudis to keep the evil British from gaining control of the oil. In 1945 FDR did just that, meeting with Saudi King Abdul Aziz aboard a U.S. warship in the Suez Canal. The two hit it off & as a result FDR succeeded in ensuring that the U.S. & not the British could control the flow of Saudi oil. U.S. military bases were set up within the kingdom & an oil for security arrangement has been beneficial to both countries ever since. The Saudis are now the U.S. defense industry's largest foreign customer & have spent $112 billion worth of weapons during the Obama administration alone.

So why is there any outrage at all concerning the murder of one guy?

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Re:SAUDI ALLIES?

Date Posted:11/11/2018 06:58:02Copy HTML

I guess Tommy because it goes against American and world values.

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Re:SAUDI ALLIES?

Date Posted:14/11/2018 03:02:05Copy HTML

Audio tapes are in the hands of most countries now including the United States. On the tape one of the guys that probably was in on the killing tell another guy you can go back and tell your boss the job is done. The only boss in Saudi land is the crowned Prince. There are no rogue groups operating outside the command of the Prince. This is the thinking of all countries with the tape except Bolton and the States. Sounds a bit fishy to me.

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Re:SAUDI ALLIES?

Date Posted:14/11/2018 07:59:52Copy HTML

The problem with these tapes is that it obviously shows that Turkey has been listening in on the Saudi Embassy. I suspect we all listen in one each other, but to admit it?
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Re:SAUDI ALLIES?

Date Posted:15/11/2018 01:09:54Copy HTML

Every country seems to do it Mark which does sound a little unsettling when you think about it. We did the same to the States from camp X before they entered the war. That info was then passed on to the British. The Americans did it to the Japanese embassy in Washington before the war and so on.

You can't go to a Russian shite house were everything isn't being recorded in HD. Trump found that out and it's still being held over his head.

With Turkey, yes it may hurt in the short term but if it manages to get the crowned Prince out it may be worth it in their minds. It should help to put them also in better standing with the American people but won't with Trump and his family businesses. 

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Re:SAUDI ALLIES?

Date Posted:15/11/2018 08:00:14Copy HTML

It's a tricky one with Saudi Arabia; the Crown Prince has moved some way in Westernising the country but has shown a ruthless streak with this murder. The West is at a loss as to how to respond.
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Re:SAUDI ALLIES?

Date Posted:15/11/2018 09:18:34Copy HTML

He has let a few women now drive cars but has jailed other women for being part of the womens movement who were speaking out. I guess it all depends what you call modernizing and it seems what ever it is it's been slow in coming.

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Re:SAUDI ALLIES?

Date Posted:16/11/2018 08:25:58Copy HTML

When the oil is no longer needed, the place will slip seamlessly back to a time when tapping goats on the arse was the national occupation.
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Re:SAUDI ALLIES?

Date Posted:17/11/2018 02:59:05Copy HTML

If your waiting for the oil to run out in the middle east you will have to wait for at least another 500 years. Goats will be walking on two legs and wearing skirts and lip stick by then.


Gas took a big hit for us yesterday. Last night I paid 98.8 cents a liter. That's 0.585 GBP or 0.7515 American dollars. For Shula that's just short of $3.40 for a little American gallon.

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