A lot of corporations are going to switch over to production of medical supplies.  I saw this on the news today.  It's akin to wartime.  I hope you have a supply of whiskey laid in, Tom. 

I'm Irish Shula, nuff said eh?

There is one that has now switched over from making whiskey to hand sanitizer. His biggest problem is getting enough bottles to put it in.

The rubbies will all be hanging around the hand sanitizing areas now.

There's a lot of people out there with good ideas on how to lesson the effects or slow this viruses spread. It's a war they are now calling it so it's time to go into a war mod. America has the capability and no how of mass producing what it needs in a real big hurry if it wants. If companies don't step up on their own then force them to step up and produce what you want. They need companies now turning out those new 45 minute testers in mass scale. Same for masks and hazmat suits and ventilators. 

Once someone 3D's the outside case and makes the molds they should be able to turn them out faster than Lego bricks.

America if it mobilities on a war footing couldn't only lesson the effects and slow down the spread in America but in the whole world.

With everyone getting layed off. it would also be a good way of keeping more people working.

There is one that has now switched over from making whiskey to hand sanitizer. His biggest problem is getting enough bottles to put it in.

The rubbies will all be hanging around the hand sanitizing areas now.

There's a lot of people out there with good ideas on how to lesson the effects or slow this viruses spread. It's a war they are now calling it so it's time to go into a war mod. America has the capability and no how of mass producing what it needs in a real big hurry if it wants. If companies don't step up on their own then force them to step up and produce what you want. They need companies now turning out those new 45 minute testers in mass scale. Same for masks and hazmat suits and ventilators. 

Once someone 3D's the outside case and makes the molds they should be able to turn them out faster than Lego bricks.

America if it mobilities on a war footing couldn't only lesson the effects and slow down the spread in America but in the whole world.

With everyone getting layed off. it would also be a good way of keeping more people working.

Well towards the end of WWII the Ford plant was turning out B-24 bombers to the tune of one every hour. So that must have been much more complex than making masks & ventilators. This will be a "wake up" call about relying on China for everything made today. BTW, who was the first leader to say; Make America first, China has unfair trade policy, close the borders, & lots more stuff which has become pertinent to today's crisis? WAIT A MINUTE, it was Trump who was way ahead of the curve on this one. Wake up Rosie the Riveter, get ready for the mass mobilization, buy stock at low prices now, the recovery will be a big, beautiful thing eh?

Don't be silly Tommy. By the amount of money American has lost in the Markets no one will have any money left to buy low with.

You are making my point about America Tommy by mentioning what Ford could do during the war. They are saying now that the unemployment numbers in the States could go up tp 30% or more before this virus is under control. Trump is calling this a war but too slow to get the Country mobilized to fight it. He did the same with Puerto Rico. Too little too late.

The Demo's don't want to pass the bill that Moscow Mitch is trying to force through. The main reason it most of the money is be slated for the big guys and not the small companies that employ most of your people. So who is Mitch trying to satisfy with this bill. The American people who will need it or Donald Trump and all his rich campaign contributors.

If I was you Tommy with the numbers your Governor is throwing around on how many people could become infected with this virus in New York State, I wouldn't even answer the front door to that little chubby one from your local Bingo Hall if she showed up.

Numbers like between 40% to 80% of the State sounds more than scary to me. Take care of yourself.

This is not the time to worry about China Tommy, it's time to worry about America.

Don't be silly Tommy. By the amount of money American has lost in the Markets no one will have any money left to buy low with.

You are making my point about America Tommy by mentioning what Ford could do during the war. They are saying now that the unemployment numbers in the States could go up tp 30% or more before this virus is under control. Trump is calling this a war but too slow to get the Country mobilized to fight it. He did the same with Puerto Rico. Too little too late.

The Demo's don't want to pass the bill that Moscow Mitch is trying to force through. The main reason it most of the money is be slated for the big guys and not the small companies that employ most of your people. So who is Mitch trying to satisfy with this bill. The American people who will need it or Donald Trump and all his rich campaign contributors.

If I was you Tommy with the numbers your Governor is throwing around on how many people could become infected with this virus in New York State, I wouldn't even answer the front door to that little chubby one from your local Bingo Hall if she showed up.

Numbers like between 40% to 80% of the State sounds more than scary to me. Take care of yourself.

Now Pete, stop with the political palaver & get serious here. Senate cannot come to agreement on several things in the bill. The one you mentioned is a Democrat talking point. The salient points are, will this bailout be loans or grants, what about stock buy backs at low prices, how much $ will each person get, in what form & when, who qualifies or is it everyone? And to quote Nancy Pelosi from years ago, "we have to pass it to see what's in it."

Cuomo is doing a good job on this crisis, but the stats you a quoting is from the NYC metro area where most of our population lives. I live in a rural area, but of course I am in the age group most at risk. So far, so good, but thanks for your concern. Of course I wish you a speedy recovery from your current condition. You are great fun to spar with on this site. Best wishes to you & the Mrs. 

Don't be silly Tommy. By the amount of money American has lost in the Markets no one will have any money left to buy low with.

You are making my point about America Tommy by mentioning what Ford could do during the war. They are saying now that the unemployment numbers in the States could go up tp 30% or more before this virus is under control. Trump is calling this a war but too slow to get the Country mobilized to fight it. He did the same with Puerto Rico. Too little too late.

The Demo's don't want to pass the bill that Moscow Mitch is trying to force through. The main reason it most of the money is be slated for the big guys and not the small companies that employ most of your people. So who is Mitch trying to satisfy with this bill. The American people who will need it or Donald Trump and all his rich campaign contributors.

If I was you Tommy with the numbers your Governor is throwing around on how many people could become infected with this virus in New York State, I wouldn't even answer the front door to that little chubby one from your local Bingo Hall if she showed up.

Numbers like between 40% to 80% of the State sounds more than scary to me. Take care of yourself.

Now Pete, stop with the political palaver & get serious here. Senate cannot come to agreement on several things in the bill. The one you mentioned is a Democrat talking point. The salient points are, will this bailout be loans or grants, what about stock buy backs at low prices, how much $ will each person get, in what form & when, who qualifies or is it everyone? And to quote Nancy Pelosi from years ago, "we have to pass it to see what's in it."

Cuomo is doing a good job on this crisis, but the stats you a quoting is from the NYC metro area where most of our population lives. I live in a rural area, but of course I am in the age group most at risk. So far, so good, but thanks for your concern. Of course I wish you a speedy recovery from your current condition. You are great fun to spar with on this site. Best wishes to you & the Mrs. 

Moscow Mitch pushing the bill through? Pete, I know you never let facts get in the way of opinion, but have you looked at the bill which is loaded with left-wing pork which has nothing to do with the situation. See Green New Deal & the like. That's what the hold-up is.

Haven't heard all what the bill has in it for sure. Only some of the points in it that each side wants.

You may only live in a small populated area Tommy but this virus and the speed that it spreads, no area is safe. All that it takes is one person from out side your area to come in and there you go. It can be as simple as you touching the pump handle when filling the truck up with gas or touching a store door handle. Best thing is to go to ground and don't come out till next February and if you see your shadow go straight back into the Lodge.

 Heard something on the news tonight which was a little concerning. Insiders in the WH are saying Trump isn't up on this safe distances of people thingy and wants to get people out and about before they should be. On the lighter side of the news Iran won't except any medical supplies from America because they can't trust you enough not to contaminate them before you send them. Your Military said it has for hospital ship ready for deployment to where needed. My question would be why haven't they been deployed already if they are ready. 

I'm getting mildy obsessed with not being able to get a haircut. I normally go every six weeks or so, it's been four now so there's no immediate urgency. But what if the "unessential" barbers is closed for weeks or months!

This may not be a problem for some of you here, but I've got a full head of blond (or is it grey now?) hair that's needs looking after.

Haven't heard all what the bill has in it for sure. Only some of the points in it that each side wants.

You may only live in a small populated area Tommy but this virus and the speed that it spreads, no area is safe. All that it takes is one person from out side your area to come in and there you go. It can be as simple as you touching the pump handle when filling the truck up with gas or touching a store door handle. Best thing is to go to ground and don't come out till next February and if you see your shadow go straight back into the Lodge.

 Heard something on the news tonight which was a little concerning. Insiders in the WH are saying Trump isn't up on this safe distances of people thingy and wants to get people out and about before they should be. On the lighter side of the news Iran won't except any medical supplies from America because they can't trust you enough not to contaminate them before you send them. Your Military said it has for hospital ship ready for deployment to where needed. My question would be why haven't they been deployed already if they are ready. 

Well here's a few the Dems threw in; $ for solar & wind power, mail in voting ballets for everyone, The Green New Deal, basically everything they haven't been able to get thru congress for the last two years. That is called "pork" one a major reason we can't get anything done expeditiously or cheap. The Dems are the one's holding this whole thingy up.

I'm getting mildy obsessed with not being able to get a haircut. I normally go every six weeks or so, it's been four now so there's no immediate urgency. But what if the "unessential" barbers is closed for weeks or months!

This may not be a problem for some of you here, but I've got a full head of blond (or is it grey now?) hair that's needs looking after.

Me too, Mark. After this we will all be "hairbags."

I go twice a year. I hate the barbers. I have a psychological block where they're concerned as when I was growing up I wanted long hair and my dad used to give us the all off, get his money's worth so to speak. So, I let it grow long and then take it to the knuckle, it's an all or nothing for me. I keep saying I'm going to get one of those cutters that have an attachment so you can have it either short or short, but never got around to it.

I go twice a year. I hate the barbers. I have a psychological block where they're concerned as when I was growing up I wanted long hair and my dad used to give us the all off, get his money's worth so to speak. So, I let it grow long and then take it to the knuckle, it's an all or nothing for me. I keep saying I'm going to get one of those cutters that have an attachment so you can have it either short or short, but never got around to it.

Hate barbers, Major? How do you place a bet, get a sporting woman, learn all the local gossip, solve world problems? 

I go twice a year. I hate the barbers. I have a psychological block where they're concerned as when I was growing up I wanted long hair and my dad used to give us the all off, get his money's worth so to speak. So, I let it grow long and then take it to the knuckle, it's an all or nothing for me. I keep saying I'm going to get one of those cutters that have an attachment so you can have it either short or short, but never got around to it.

Plenty on top? Or do you go for the Terry Nutkins look?

I go twice a year. I hate the barbers. I have a psychological block where they're concerned as when I was growing up I wanted long hair and my dad used to give us the all off, get his money's worth so to speak. So, I let it grow long and then take it to the knuckle, it's an all or nothing for me. I keep saying I'm going to get one of those cutters that have an attachment so you can have it either short or short, but never got around to it.

Plenty on top? Or do you go for the Terry Nutkins look?

Seems as if Boris has made a U turn on his "herd immunity" policy. Sounded good at first where the recommendations were for those over 70 to cloister themselves, for everyone else, carry on, stiff upper lip, pip pip, jolly good, & all that Limey stuff. Then doctors & scientists starting railing against the plan claiming it would result in thousands of death & collapse the NHS. Boris then went wobbly & canceled large events & closed the skools.

Never let an opportunistic crisis go to waste when you can use it to further your political agenda. Would you say the corona virus was the most demanding of our current problems? People dying, businesses closing down, people losing their jobs and millions may not be able to pay their bills? Well the Dems think not and Poncy Baloney and her fellow braindeads have introduced their own terms, which caters for the usual pathetic little interest groups, obsessed with their own agenda of bigotry politics to the exclusion of all others. They've produced their own demanding bill for this crisis which is, ready for it? 1400 pages long, yes you read that right and it includes such demands as having all companies having officers and a budget to police diversity and inclusion policies for five years, yeh right and try and get rid of that PC virus after a week, never mind five years, when it has spread like the virus they're using to introduce this pathetic, anti business, anti prosperity, pro thought and deed subjugation on everybody. I mean, you can't make this shite up, it's so left wing, so utterly oppressive it makes china look like a beacon of free thought and rights. The government will have to prove it gives enough money to companies owned by women and none whites and diversity projects. Hello, hello, anyone at home? McFly, what has all this got to do with a pandemic that threatens to murder millions of Americans? If you think they can't get anymore obnoxiously PC, you're wrong, never underestimate the stupidity of a lefty, they want all work permits for foreign nationals automatically renewing, no applications. They want the pandemic tackling by experts but experts based on their race and disability and oh, if a company does get government money to save it, it must offset that money by reducing its carbon footprint. You really have to wonder. Even their glove puppets in the media have had to voice some semblance of opposition, that's how bad it its. There's a deadly pandemic and it's just a political tool as far as they're concerned, a legitimate political tool and bollocks to the death toll. The greatest favour this pandemic can now do for the west is to allow the left to continue further from just putting a gun to their heads, but also pull the trigger. Y'know, I don't care too much for the way Trump is guiding this pandemic policy, as for me, it needs strangling right now and he's not doing it, he can't have his cake and eat it. One foot in and one out won't work, this is going to kill possibly tens of thousands of yanks, get a grip. get a grip of this like you have the economy. You would think it's a golden opportunity for the dems to step in and what do the walkers do? They put a gun to their heads.

I'm getting mildly obsessed with not being able to get a haircut. I normally go every six weeks or so, it's been four now so there's no immediate urgency. But what if the "unessential" barbers is closed for weeks or months!

This may not be a problem for some of you here, but I've got a full head of blond (or is it grey now?) hair that's needs looking after. I can see the seriousness with your problem Mark. Imagine what state an ex-military man who was always use to having his hair cut regularly was in when I missing getting my haircut back in mid November because I chose to visit my wife in hospital instead of getting my hair cut. Then I was in hospital myself for 8 days and was on home care for 7 weeks after that. I was at the stage of shampooing it but not combing it because I forgot where the part was suppose to be. Finally got to the barbers March 9th and went into shock when I found the places closed. I went into the cold sweats until I realized that my barber was always closed Mondays. I couldn't sleep and tossed and turned all night thinking the barbers might be too busy to cut my hair the next day so I decided to try and go in the next day early on the 10th and take my chances. When I get to the barbers, I read  the closed sign first and then the posted shop hours. I'm an hour and a half early. I'm standing outside the shop with my walker and no place to go until opening time. Luckily there was a few young ladies waiting for their store to open next store so was able to chat with them and tell them my sad story and show them my wounds. I finally get in the barber chair and the barber asks me how do I want it cut. I tell him shorter all over and smiling to him and say, could he thin out the grey hairs. He looks at my head and says so you want me to shave you bald then. Italian barbers find some joked funny as long as the second war isn't mentioned first. I came out of the barbers and my wife, youngest daughter and grand daughter didn't recognize me. With the weight off my head my neck pain suddenly was all gone.

Trump showed his true colours today. He wants the whole country up and running again by Easter. He wants the churches to be full of people.  He getting his advise from economists and top notch doctors and scientists. Which one of the two groups would a President for the people pick. For a "D" heads like Trump the decision was easy. Go with the economists and screw the people.

He wanting to throw money out to stimulate the economy and they are saying if you do it too fast it will probably just be lost like the rest. Best to hold off until the count of new cases levels off.

We mentioned earlier Tommy could the virus be Trumps down fall and cause him to lose the 2020 election. Well if it doesn't then there is something wrong with you all down there. 

Me too, Mark. After this we will all be "hairbags." Speak for yourself Ladie Buck. I couldn't get in the Navy after they found out my parents were married. We had an British exchange officer from the 17th/21st Lancers as our Adjutant in the late 60's in Germany with the Lord Strathcona Horse (RC). He comes out to inspect us one morning and his dress pants are what you call floods because they are at least 3 inches to short on him. He may have been colour blind because visible to us all was one black sock and one blue sock. It was when you looked at his hair and seen the length of it that was the real shocker. It was like being inspected by Ozzy Osbourne. The British army did get away with longer hair after the Beatles than we ever did. it was like all their Regimental Barbers had all passed away at the same time.

I go twice a year. I hate the barbers.

Dam long hairs, there all the same. Right Tommy?

I go twice a year. I hate the barbers.

Dam long hairs, there all the same. Right Tommy?

Right Pete. Hairbags, fag baits, the great unwashed.

Prince Charles has got it now.

That was reported earlier. Will that be considered a royal virus?

That was reported earlier. Will that be considered a royal virus? And maybe a royal death penalty

If Charles infects Canada's Queen, it sure will be.

I'm looking at the death counts in both Canada and the States and using by method of a 10 to 1 ratio of our populations. Canada today has 30 deaths so far and the States has 898. The States should only have 300 deaths using the ratios, not 898. Every Canadian would say that's because we have a better healthcare system set up and we do but there is also probably another consideration that has to be mentioned and that is Canadians are spread out further apart than Americans are. I also looked at how many Canadians and American were brought home from foreign countries after this virus caught hold. America brought back 9,000 travellers and Canada brought back 55,000 travellers.

A lot of Canadian companies seem to be stepping up and producing medical supplies. Actually more than I expected. The Province of Ontario just recieved 300 more ventilators from one and the Canada Goose clothing company known for producting winter wear have gone into producing masks and protective wear.

I guess my question would be to all, why is our death rate so much lower and how can the States try to curve theirs.

Newfoundland woman arrested for refusing to self isolate after talking to police.

ST. JOHN'S, N.L. — The arrest of a Newfoundland woman for refusing to stay home after she returned from a trip outside the province is raising questions about the extent to which law enforcement agencies can limit basic freedoms to prevent the spread of COVID-19.

The Royal Newfoundland Constabulary confirmed Wednesday the 53-year-old woman was arrested the night before in Corner Brook and placed in a jail cell overnight for allegedly violating public health emergency orders aimed at slowing the spread of the virus.

Const. James Cadigan said officers responded to complaints alleging the woman was not self-isolating for 14 days, as required under Newfoundland and Labrador's Public Health Protection and Promotion Act.

He said officers spoke to the woman and arrested her for failing to comply with the law, which could lead to a fine of between $500 and $2,500 or a jail sentence of up to six months.

"If you're going to put our community at risk, we will follow up on those measures," Cadigan said.

However, the head of the Canadian Civil Liberties Association said police are on murky legal ground, even though dealing with a global pandemic can call for extraordinary measures.

"If it's a measure of last resort and the police exercise their discretion in a way that puts public health first ... then there is legal authorization to do this," said Michael Bryant, the association's executive director.

But Bryant said there are important constitutional issues to consider, and putting someone in jail is not necessarily the best approach.

"It's not clear to me that a quarantine order for travel outside of a province is constitutional," he said in an interview.

"Any travel order than restricts people's travel from province to province, arguably, could run afoul of our constitutional rights to mobility. This may be an opportunity to test this particular Newfoundland law that clearly restricts mobility rights."

Later in the day, the federal government announced it will start enforcing 14-day quarantines on travellers returning to Canada. Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland said mandatory isolation is needed to flatten the curve of the growth of the novel coronavirus in Canada.

The formal quarantine order comes with the potential for arrests and fines.

In Quebec City, police arrested a woman last week who they say was infected with the virus and was walking outside after being ordered to stay indoors.

The arrest marked the first time Quebec City's public health director issued an order to police under emergency powers granted after Premier Francois Legault declared a public health emergency March 14.

"When it became obvious we had to act, we acted," Mathieu Boivin, spokesman for Quebec City's regional health authority, said last week.

Legault has said the health emergency gives the police "all sorts of powers" to enforce his directives. Quebec also announced fines of at least $1,000 against anyone ignoring directives that prohibit gatherings.

Last Sunday, Nova Scotia declared a state of emergency to deal with the pandemic and immediately enacted new restrictions and penalties under the province's Health Protection Act.

People in Nova Scotia are prohibited from gathering in groups larger than five. Individuals caught violating the limit face a $1,000 fine, and businesses allowing large groups to gather face a $7,500 fine.

On Monday, Prince Edward Island and the City of Vancouver also introduced new penalties for anyone caught violating public health directives.

P.E.I. Justice Minister Bloyce Thompson said there would be a fine of $1,000 for a first offence, $2,000 for a second offence and $10,000 for any subsequent offences.

Vancouver city council voted unanimously to permit fines as high as $50,000 against businesses that don't adhere to social distancing measures and up to $1,000 for individuals.

This report by The Canadian Press was first published March 25, 2020.

— By Michael MacDonald with files from Holly McKenzie-Sutter.

The Canadian Press

Pompeo pressed G-7 leaders to refer to 'Wuhan virus' in statement: report.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo pressed Group of Seven (G-7) leaders to refer to the novel coronavirus as the "Wuhan virus," according to a report by the German magazine Der Spiegel.

The G-7 leaders have thus far not been able to agree on a joint statement because of Pompeo's insistence that the group should refer to the disease as the "Wuhan virus," which other member states have rejected.

When asked about the report at a media availability teleconference, Pompeo, who repeatedly referred to the coronavirus as the "Wuhan virus," did not deny the reports. Pompeo appeared to double-down on his rhetoric in an attempt to hold the Chinese Communist Party accountable for its handling of the virus.

"We've wanted to work with the Chinese Communist Party throughout this crisis - this crisis that began in Wuhan, China," Pompeo said. "We tried, you'll remember, from the opening days to get our scientists, our experts on the ground there so that we could begin to assist in the global response to what began there in China, but we weren't able to do that. The Chinese Communist Party wouldn't permit that to happen."

"The Chinese Communist Party poses a substantial threat to our health and way of life, as the Wuhan virus outbreak clearly has demonstrated," Pompeo added.

President Trump and other GOP lawmakers referred to the novel coronavirus as the "Chinese virus," despite critics noting that such rhetoric could be correlated with a rise in targeted violence against Asian Americans.

Public health officials, such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the World Health Organization have advised against referring to the coronavirus by its city or country of origin.

The WH should put their priorities in order and worry about helping their own people through this, not blaming someone else for their slow actions. The world know good and well where the virus started. 

Pompeo is a twit, just like everyone still left in the White House licking Trumps boots.

China is coming back on line and the last thing you should do to a country that supplies you with most of your medical supplies is bad mouth them because you are only making matters worse for your own people.

If Charles infects Canada's Queen, it sure will be.

I'm looking at the death counts in both Canada and the States and using by method of a 10 to 1 ratio of our populations. Canada today has 30 deaths so far and the States has 898. The States should only have 300 deaths using the ratios, not 898. Every Canadian would say that's because we have a better healthcare system set up and we do but there is also probably another consideration that has to be mentioned and that is Canadians are spread out further apart than Americans are. I also looked at how many Canadians and American were brought home from foreign countries after this virus caught hold. America brought back 9,000 travellers and Canada brought back 55,000 travellers.

A lot of Canadian companies seem to be stepping up and producing medical supplies. Actually more than I expected. The Province of Ontario just recieved 300 more ventilators from one and the Canada Goose clothing company known for producting winter wear have gone into producing masks and protective wear.

I guess my question would be to all, why is our death rate so much lower and how can the States try to curve theirs.

Well, there you go again Pete with a flawed system & #'s. Better to look at the survival #'s.