Can still remember during the Nijmegen March our group of 30 catching up and passing Haig. Just as we were behind him we all shouldered arms to prepare to give him a salute. We all said together good morning General, at that he turned fast and looked like a deer caught in the headlights. With this, we saluted him and he realized who we were and weren't there to kill him. One of those guys yells out where's all your troops Sir. He said back there somewhere. I was waiting for one of our smart asses to say ya we know, we passed them all. Now that I think about it he shouldn't have been there by himself being the Supreme Allied Commander Europe at the time. 

I wasn't too keen on him Tommy during the Falklands affair.

Can still remember during the Nijmegen March our group of 30 catching up and passing Haig. Just as we were behind him we all shouldered arms to prepare to give him a salute. We all said together good morning General, at that he turned fast and looked like a deer caught in the headlights. With this, we saluted him and he realized who we were and weren't there to kill him. One of those guys yells out where's all your troops Sir. He said back there somewhere. I was waiting for one of our smart asses to say ya we know, we passed them all. Now that I think about it he shouldn't have been there by himself being the Supreme Allied Commander Europe at the time. 

I wasn't too keen on him Tommy during the Falklands affair.

I am not too keen on too many generals anyway, Pete. Especially Haig after his "I'm in charge here" statement after Reagan got shot. We have a retired Brig here in my little town who is active in all the local service clubs. Really full of himself as most of em are.

Yes, I can remember that.

3 April 1203 - Arthur, Duke of Brittany 1187-1203, murdered (likely date).

Arthur was the posthumous son of Geoffrey, Duke of Brittany the second son of Henry II, King of England. Geoffrey died in 1186 leaving a pregnant widow, the reigning Duchess Constance. She gave birth to Arthur in March 1187 whereupon he was proclaimed Duke.

With the accession of Richard I as King of England in 1189 Arthur became his heir and remained so until Richard's death in 1199, but on his deathbed the King named his brother John as heir fearing that the 12 year old Arthur was too young and, more importantly, too much influenced by the King of France to wear the English Crown. 

War broke out immediately between England and France, King Philippe invaded the English possessions in France of Anjou and Maine in Arthur's name. It ended badly for Arthur, he was captured in 1202 and imprisoned in the castle at Rouen. And it was from here that he disappeared in April 1203.

He was almost certainly murdered on King John's orders and rumours circulated that the King had personally killed the 16 year old boy and thrown his body into the river Seine. No body was ever found, although again there were stories that it was discovered by fishermen and secretly buried in the Abbey of Bec near Rouen.

On this day in 1922, Doris Day was born.... ooohhh would I? This Dolly makes Britney look like that bloke driving the coach into Deadwood.

3 April 1203 - Arthur, Duke of Brittany 1187-1203, murdered (likely date).

Arthur was the posthumous son of Geoffrey, Duke of Brittany the second son of Henry II, King of England. Geoffrey died in 1186 leaving a pregnant widow, the reigning Duchess Constance. She gave birth to Arthur in March 1187 whereupon he was proclaimed Duke.

With the accession of Richard I as King of England in 1189 Arthur became his heir and remained so until Richard's death in 1199, but on his deathbed the King named his brother John as heir fearing that the 12 year old Arthur was too young and, more importantly, too much influenced by the King of France to wear the English Crown. 

War broke out immediately between England and France, King Philippe invaded the English possessions in France of Anjou and Maine in Arthur's name. It ended badly for Arthur, he was captured in 1202 and imprisoned in the castle at Rouen. And it was from here that he disappeared in April 1203.

He was almost certainly murdered on King John's orders and rumours circulated that the King had personally killed the 16 year old boy and thrown his body into the river Seine. No body was ever found, although again there were stories that it was discovered by fishermen and secretly buried in the Abbey of Bec near Rouen.

Ya know Mark, deep down I have always wanted to be "King", but after years of reading your posts I have changed my mind. Too dangerous a job for me. 

You couldn't write this stuff as a series of plays as everybody would say it's too far fetched

You couldn't write this stuff as a series of plays as everybody would say it's too far fetched

Most colonials are confused about the role of royalty & the roles they played in history. After reading & learning from some of these posts I am REALLY confused. Never heard of the term posthumous son, but after pondering for a while.........I get it now.

Simple mathematics, Duke Geoffrey died in August 1186, his son Arthur was born seven months later in March 1187.

Art, you're closer than you realize about putting it into a play; Shakespeare did just that. King John written about 1595 but not published until 1623 seven years after his death depicts the demise of the young Arthur. Shakespeare does not put the blame on King John though.

I have an empathy with Arthur, being one myself.

Arthur had an elder sister Eleanor who, after Arthur's murder, was held captive by King John as she was a threat to his Crown. She was 19 years old and remained a prisoner of the State for the rest of her life. She was held in comfortable confinement in a variety of castles across England until her death in 1241 aged 57.

"Comfortable confinement" Mark, Wow, P.C. even way back when.

Yes, she was kept in some old drafty castles. They didn't even have glass windows to stop the rain and cold winter winds from blowing in. It took a whole forest of hard wood in those places just trying to take the chill off each year. They tried to cover the walls with tapestries just to keep the wind from blowing through them. People are going nuts right now being locked up for two weeks so you can imagine what it would be like spending your whole live in those conditions. Didn't even have cable TV to watch.

4 April 1841 - William Harrison, President of the USA 1841, died.

America's shortest serving President, he died exactly one month after his inauguration.

A former soldier turned Whig politician his political career appeared to be over when he retired to his farm in Ohio in 1829, but was tempted out of retirement in 1836 when he came second to van Buren in the Presidential Election. Running again in 1840 he easily beat van Buren by 234 Electoral votes to 60. He was sworn in on 4 March 1841, at 68 he was the USA's oldest President and would remain so until Ronald Reagan in 1981.

He delivered his inaugural speech of nearly two hours without wearing either coat or hat on a cold wintry day and this is thought to be the cause of his death. He fell ill at the end of the month and died on 4 April. However recent investigations have suggested that he died as a result of an infected water supply at the White House.

Other than his short tenure and his age he is best remembered for his election slogan "Tippecanoe and Tyler too", a reference to his military past and his running mate John Tyler.

1968 Martin Luther King assassinated

1968 Martin Luther King assassinated

Aha, yet another interesting conspiracy theory here. If my ever fading memory serves me, Ray fled to Canada & then to London where he was eventually captured. We were led to believe he was a small time crook who acted alone in the assassination. One obvious question is how did such a man have the funds for this world travel? He must have been a "patsy" controlled by some evil group. Remember "patsy" was the word Lee Harvey Osborne used to describe himself after his arrest for murdering JFK. Back to Ray, he went from Toronto to London. So I surmise that MI-6 was pulling the strings along with the Canadian Intelligence Agency. Wait a minute, Canada does not have an "Intelligence" agency. Never mind.

1968 Martin Luther King assassinated

Aha, yet another interesting conspiracy theory here. If my ever fading memory serves me, Ray fled to Canada & then to London where he was eventually captured. We were led to believe he was a small time crook who acted alone in the assassination. One obvious question is how did such a man have the funds for this world travel? He must have been a "patsy" controlled by some evil group. Remember "patsy" was the word Lee Harvey Osborne used to describe himself after his arrest for murdering JFK. Back to Ray, he went from Toronto to London. So I surmise that MI-6 was pulling the strings along with the Canadian Intelligence Agency. Wait a minute, Canada does not have an "Intelligence" agency. Never mind.

There was a lot of conspiracy theories floating around with Ray. 

Canada does not have an "Intelligence" agency. Never mind.

Actually our spies are perfect because you never know them, hear about them or even see them. They walk among you all the time down there Tommy.

Look up CSIS in your search. We monitored all your telephone calls and radio traffic in the 30's up until you finally entered the war and probably after. We kept an eye on you Nazi's and who you were dealing with. It was done from Camp "X" just east of Oshawa. We also trained your guys in security matters. Does the name Ian Fleming sound familar? 

1968 Martin Luther King assassinated

Aha, yet another interesting conspiracy theory here. If my ever fading memory serves me, Ray fled to Canada & then to London where he was eventually captured. We were led to believe he was a small time crook who acted alone in the assassination. One obvious question is how did such a man have the funds for this world travel? He must have been a "patsy" controlled by some evil group. Remember "patsy" was the word Lee Harvey Osborne used to describe himself after his arrest for murdering JFK. Back to Ray, he went from Toronto to London. So I surmise that MI-6 was pulling the strings along with the Canadian Intelligence Agency. Wait a minute, Canada does not have an "Intelligence" agency. Never mind.

There was a lot of conspiracy theories floating around with Ray. 

Canada does not have an "Intelligence" agency. Never mind.

Actually our spies are perfect because you never know them, hear about them or even see them. They walk among you all the time down there Tommy.

Look up CSIS in your search. We monitored all your telephone calls and radio traffic in the 30's up until you finally entered the war and probably after. We kept an eye on you Nazi's and who you were dealing with. It was done from Camp "X" just east of Oshawa. We also trained your guys in security matters. Does the name Ian Fleming sound familar? 

C'mon Pete, you tried to steal basketball from us & now James Bond from the Limeys? I realize that you are trying to be relevant here, but really???

We did steal baseball off you in 92 and 93 and would have taken it in 94 if the league hadn't gone on strike. Same with the basket ball last year and would have done it again this year if the virus hadn't showed up. Not too many people know the real Fleming during the war. On the Dieppe raid he was waiting off shore for the 4 wheeled Enigma machine to be taken from the German Navy Headquarters there and when he got it was to make back to England as fast as possible and deliver it north east of London to Bletchley Park. He had a lot to do with the setting up and training done at Camp X. They was also a spy training school and many of the men and women that were dropped off in France by parachute were trained there. The Prime Minister of Canada at the time William Lyon Mackenzie didn't even know the place existed until after the war.

                           The Man Called Intrepid

The first video is a wee bit funny what went on at this prison of war camp in set up in Ontario but the second goes into detail on Camp X and it's training.

Don't be silly girl, everyone is rude in New York City.

Two major figures from World War II died on this day 20 years apart.

5 April 1964 - Gen. Douglas MacArthur, died.

Supreme Commander Allied Forces South West Pacific Area 1942-45, Supreme Commander Allied Powers Japan 1945-51.

5 April 1984 - Air Chief Marshal Sir Arthur Harris, died.

C-in-C Bomber Command 1942-45. Created a Baronet in 1953.

Two major figures from World War II died on this day 20 years apart.

5 April 1964 - Gen. Douglas MacArthur, died.

Supreme Commander Allied Forces South West Pacific Area 1942-45, Supreme Commander Allied Powers Japan 1945-51.

5 April 1984 - Air Chief Marshal Sir Arthur Harris, died.

C-in-C Bomber Command 1942-45. Created a Baronet in 1953.

Ah yes, the American Cesar & Bomber Harris. Both great men who took a lot of heat for their decisions. 

In 2008 Charlton Heston died. Quite possibly America's greatest actor and they've had a few.

In 2008 Charlton Heston died. Quite possibly America's greatest actor and they've had a few.

Who could argue with Moses? He was president of the National Rifle Association when he made this quote, "You can have my gun, when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers."

Far from America's best actor.

That statement turned me off Heston, Tommy. 

Well, there you have it.  That's what you should be apologizing for.

I know New Yorkers are rude, Tom excluded of course.  Chicagoans are rude, too.