Only Lefties call it by that name, and I know you're not one of those. It's better known as The Indian Mutiny.

Cartridges made in England did contain animal fats, but aware of native sensibilities all the cartridges for use in India were manufactured at the Bengal Army Ordnance factories without the use of animal fats. However some English manufactured cartridges had made their way out to India for testing, so there is a grain of truth in the story. No Sepoy was ever issued with English-made cartridges for regular use.  

My apologies for calling it India's War for Independence.  I honestly did not know it should have been styled a mutiny but both of your responses to the thread made it perfectly understandable why.  I thought I styled it right from a video I watched on a YouTube segment called "Top Tenz Unintended Consequences".  I am hoping I can show it here.  If not, that is where you can find it, and I am virtually certain it is done by a British guy.  We shall hang him of course for his transgression.

OK Littlemisssmartypants,spill your guts, how did you manage to post a video.

In 1861 England sold the Confederacy thousand of Enfield P-53 rifles.  Do you suppose these were the rifles India refused to use? 

Must have drove those rebel boys crazy with all that pig fat around. Why do I keep hearing that music from Deliverance in my head.

Spill your guts with the Video posting.

It wasn't the rifles that were the problem but the greased cartridges. I've looked into it a bit more and the Indian government issued an instruction that the sepoys could use whatever grease they were happy with on their own cartridges. The official alternative of beeswax was found unsuitable in the Indian climate. Sheep or goat fat was deemed acceptable. 

The causes of the Indian Mutiny were down to more than just this incident though.

The problem is littlemisshelper there is no you-tube Icon for us to hit on or even one for pictures. You must be special having one.

Does anyone else have a you-tube or even a picture button in the group besides Shula??

The only thing I see is, Make a donation click here. Your support will help us remove ads and upload local images, etc.

79 deaths so far in the Californa wild fires and 1300 still on the missing list.

I've got a YouTube button, but I never even try to post videos. I've also got next to it a Remote Image button which I never use either, you have to type in the URL at which point I'm lost. But there's another way, as you can see.

 You also have a you-tube button???? shite. You can post the odd picture directly from the web like you just did but can you post any from YOUR PICTURES in your computer. Maybe the video thing was only for administrators Try posting a video from you-tube for us. When you get to you-tube type into the search at the top something you like and see what happens.

That was terrible Major. lol

A brief clip from a sketch she did on Saturday Night Live in 2000, the whole thing is worth watching, she's got a talent for comedy.

Brief, now that's putting it mildly. That was Bridney was it? Didn't recognized her without her wee kilt on.

Your turn Major can you post videos??

The thread of this section was India's war for independence, or the Indian mutiny as it is known in Britain. I'll set the scene and cover it a little more in depth later. The sudden shock for the Brits was actually a long time in coming. It wasn't just about the fat in cartridges, that was just used by the mutiny leaders to set the Indian military off. There was no pig or cow fat used, as far as I've ever been able to read, in the sense that it was ever proved beyond doubt. It was all just malicious rumour. Generally, the Brits never interfered with religions of the nations they sucked into their empire and it was the case in India, with soldiers having free reign to practice their faiths within the military. The descent to war followed a year of mumbling and a tangle of grievances, political, religious and economic and although some concerns were expressed by the politico's on the ground, the upper echelons simply dismissed them as rumour mongering or from known trouble causers.

Ok, why are Tommy and I the only ones here that can't post videos. Is it because, You three all have owner, administer and s-administer beside your names.

If that's the case then the owner better get it changed so we are all equal here.

First of all Major you put some right wing station on that says the reporter darn near assaulted the girl who tried to grab the mick out of his hand. We all know that is false when we seen the tape. You see also how Trump wouldn't answer any questions. So don't try and bull shit a bull.

Well the Republican Judge didn't seem to think he did and that's what counts. By the way did you ever get those glasses that you said you needed.

Where's that she witch hiding? Worse that an absentee landlord when you need her.

Actually the Judge said he wouldn't even bother to take it to trial because there was nothing really there.

The mutiny is seen in a number of ways, depending on which side you are on. The Company (East India) was guilty of interference in matters they should have kept their noses out of and on too many occasions it was to impose on the country their own sense of values. A number of rulers were dethroned for being bad rulers, by company standards, most especially the despotic ones and replaced. With the best will in the world, the company also interfered to eradicate such practices as Thuggee and Suttee, the latter being seen as their cultural right but as barbaric by the Brits. The campaign to end these practices was viewed as a possible imposition of Christianity on them and with the introduction of Sikh and Gurkha soldiers to the ranks, this was also seen as interference in their religions, which was Islam and Hinduism. Within Hinduism ran the caste system, which was very rigid and the rumour easily spread that the company was going to abolish it. There became a gradual separation of officers and men, quickly followed by British and Indian troops. Officers were aloof and out of touch, living the high life and native troops slowly turned and became tribal, giving ordinary British soldiers threats whenever they wandered into towns and instead of addressing all these examples of dissatisfaction with understanding they treated them with disdain and the sore festered on. The final insult to the natives were the cartridges with pork and cow fat. The company tried to convince the soldiers they were sealed with beeswax and if they had any doubts, then to just tear off the end and not bite it off. Violence eventually erupted with the one man mutiny of Mangal Pande, who was stood in the middle of the Barrackpur parade ground alone, with a loaded rifle, screaming for his fellow soldiers to follow him. He was actually calling them Banchuts, which literally means, sister fuckers. He’d been taking a common drug called bhang, which had most likely sent him over the top. He was yelling that to use the cartridges would turn them all into infidels, meaning Christians and this was the dastardly plot. An NCO approached him and was wounded in the neck. A tussle ensued, which even involved a Colonel and General Heasey and they found themselves deliberately hindered by all the Sepoys, except one, who was promoted afterwards. Pande Tried to shoot himself but he was disarmed and arrested, later to be tried and executed. The day after his execution, the regiment was disbanded and the soldiers sent home. This was a big mistake, on top of the others, as these men were humiliated by this in front of their communities and being deprived a living, grew enormously resentful and militant. A pattern was now set. Any regiment showing any signs of disobedience were to be disbanded and this further panicked them and rather than hand over their muskets, they would make the first move.