It's got to the point now where most Brits don't want him back, he can stay where he is. 

It's got to the point now where most Brits don't want him back, he can stay where he is. 

California is a good place for both of em. Told you there would be trouble when he married her.

It's got to the point now where most Brits don't want him back, he can stay where he is. 

California is a good place for both of em. Told you there would be trouble when he married her.

California was Tommy  before the Republicans started showing up in sheeps clothing running for Govenor there.

It's got to the point now where most Brits don't want him back, he can stay where he is. 

California is a good place for both of em. Told you there would be trouble when he married her.

California was Tommy  before the Republicans started showing up in sheeps clothing running for Govenor there.

Sheep's clothing???? You mean Olympic shorts.

Notice how they only stayed in Canada for a cup of coffee............err tea.

It's got to the point now where most Brits don't want him back, he can stay where he is. 

California is a good place for both of em. Told you there would be trouble when he married her.

California was Tommy  before the Republicans started showing up in sheeps clothing running for Govenor there.

Sheep's clothing???? You mean Olympic shorts.

Shorts are too baggy in the crotch now to wear out in public.

It's got to the point now where most Brits don't want him back, he can stay where he is. 

California is a good place for both of em. Told you there would be trouble when he married her.

So now you are a marriage counselor Tommy. I suppose you earned your degree at the legion round table. Probably worse that sitting with a group of little old ladies.

Besides, you shouldn't be even in the legion unless you are fully vaccinated and everyone else in the place is also. Should be carrying you vaccination passport and be checked for it at the front door.

Notice how they only stayed in Canada for a cup of coffee............err tea.

Who stayed in Canada for a cup of tea? Are you talking about Jenner or the Royals.

If you mean the latter then you know why then, because no where in American can even make a proper cup of tea. Most Canadians smuggle their own tea bags into America even for only a day trip.

After a marriage that promised so much for the Royal Family and the country it's very disappointing to see it end up like this. More harm than good has come out of it.

After a marriage that promised so much for the Royal Family and the country it's very disappointing to see it end up like this. More harm than good has come out of it.

Okay Mark, this will be my last "I told you so" post, but once you let "them" in, "they" are more trouble than they are worth. In retrospect, we should have picked our own cotton. 

After a marriage that promised so much for the Royal Family and the country it's very disappointing to see it end up like this. More harm than good has come out of it.

Okay Mark, this will be my last "I told you so" post, but once you let "them" in, "they" are more trouble than they are worth. In retrospect, we should have picked our own cotton. 

They were making fortunes on that cotton Tommy, they could have afforded to pay workers to pick it but them American greed set in and the rest is history.

After a marriage that promised so much for the Royal Family and the country it's very disappointing to see it end up like this. More harm than good has come out of it.

Okay Mark, this will be my last "I told you so" post, but once you let "them" in, "they" are more trouble than they are worth. In retrospect, we should have picked our own cotton. 

They were making fortunes on that cotton Tommy, they could have afforded to pay workers to pick it but them American greed set in and the rest is history.

Of course the plantation class were the aristocrats with lineage going back to GB. Most of them had family estates given to them via King's land grants & the cotton went back to GB to be turned into cloth & clothing. They were not really Americans until years after the Civil War ended the slavery issue. A mistake was made by bringing "them" here, & then of course there is the mistake Harry made by bringing "her" into the royal family. Now we are trying to focus on being "woke" like we are all the same, & the "can't we just all get along" thingy? Yeah right, like apples are like oranges & lions are like antelopes. 

Afford to pay them Pete? Good point as slavery was an untenable institution requiring taking care of "them" & families for life, with housing medical care, food & clothing, etc. It would have been much cheaper to hire a Chink for sure & in hindsight better all around. 

As far a greed goes, perhaps if the Canucks had more of it you wouldn't be a third world nation you have become eh?

The problem with the Left is that they equate being equal to being the same.

The problem with the Left is that they equate being equal to being the same.

Mark, please expound on that?

No reasonable person can argue against equality of opportunity, equality of life experiences for everyone regardless of colour, creed or sexuality. But with the Left we all have to be the same - a man can be a woman or neither if he/she wishes, in fact they'd like us all to ditch gender and be what we want. A woman can go into a men's toilet if she wants, there's no such thing as gender, we're all the same. 

A black woman can play a white role on TV (Anne Boleyn will be black in the latest TV incarnation) but we're not to comment on that, she's an actress (or is it actor now?) the same as all the others. 

No reasonable person can argue against equality of opportunity, equality of life experiences for everyone regardless of colour, creed or sexuality. But with the Left we all have to be the same - a man can be a woman or neither if he/she wishes, in fact they'd like us all to ditch gender and be what we want. A woman can go into a men's toilet if she wants, there's no such thing as gender, we're all the same. 

A black woman can play a white role on TV (Anne Boleyn will be black in the latest TV incarnation) but we're not to comment on that, she's an actress (or is it actor now?) the same as all the others. 

Well done!

Mark, you mentioned actor & actress. The Hollywood elites are mostly on the left, but they still have separate awards, one for actors & one for actresses. Could it be they want to keep it that way so they can reward themselves with more trophies?

There was talk at this year's Oscars of doing away with the separation of the sexes, but I think it'll continue for some years yet, if only to protect the men; under the current climate women will be expected to sweep the board, all in the name of equality of course. 

What about Canada's slavery history?  Have you all resolved that with reparations?

You could probably put our slavery history all on a postage stamp. We did had Empire Loyalists that brought their slaves north with them.

Slavery in Canada includes both that practised by First Nations from earliest times and that under European colonization.^[1]

Britain banned the institution of slavery in present-day Canada (and British colonies) in 1833, though the practice of slavery in Canada had effectively ended already early in the 19th century through case law, due to court decisions resulting from litigation on behalf of slaves seeking manumission.^[2] The courts, to varying degrees, rendered slavery unenforceable in both Lower Canada and Nova Scotia. In Lower Canada, for example, after court decisions in the late 1790s, the "slave could not be compelled to serve longer than he would, and ... might leave his master at will."^[3] Upper Canada passed the Act Against Slavery in 1793, one of the earliest anti-slavery acts in the world.^[4]

As slavery in the United States continued until 1863, Black people (free and slaves) began immigrating to Canada from the United States after the American Revolution and again after the War of 1812, many by way of the Underground Railroad.^[5]

Because Canada's role in the trans-Atlantic slave trade was so minor, the history of black slavery in Canada is often overshadowed by the more tumultuous slavery practised elsewhere in the Americas,^[6] with modern human trafficking (especially with regard to indigenous women) becoming the significant legal and political issue of Canadian society.^[7]

The historian Marcel Trudel estimates that there were fewer than 4,200 slaves in the area of Canada (New France) and later The Canadas between 1671 and 1831.^[13] Around two-thirds of these slaves were of indigenous ancestry (2,700 typically called panis, from the French term for Pawnee)^[14] and one third were of African descent (1,443).^[13] They were house servants and farm workers.^[15] The number of black slaves increased during British rule, especially with the arrival of United Empire Loyalists after 1783.^[16] The Maritimes saw 1,200 to 2,000 slaves arrive prior to abolition, with 300 accounted for in Lower Canada, and between 500 and 700 in Upper Canada.^[15] A small portion of Black Canadians today are descended from these slaves.^[17]

People of African descent were forcibly captured by local chiefs as chattel slaves and sold to traders bound for southern areas of the Americas. Those in what is now called Canada typically came from the American colonies, as no shiploads of human chattel went to Canada directly from Africa.^[18] There were no large plantations in Canada, and therefore no need for a large slave work force of the sort that existed in most European colonies in the Americas.^[18] Nevertheless, slaves in Canada were subjected to the same physical, psychological, and sexual violence and punishments as their American counterparts.^[19

Lower Canada (Quebec)[edit]

In Lower Canada, Sir James Monk, the Chief Justice, rendered a series of decisions in the late 1790s that undermined the ability to compel slaves to serve their masters; while "not technically abolishing slavery, [they] rendered it innocuous." As a result, slaves began to flee their masters within the province, but also from other provinces and from the United States. This occurred several years before the legislature acted in Upper Canada to limit slavery.^[3] While the decision was founded upon a technicality (the extant law allowing committal of slaves not to jails, but only to houses of correction, of which there were none in the province), Monk went on to say that "slavery did not exist in the province and to warn owners that he would apply this interpretation of the law to all subsequent cases."^[25] In subsequent decisions, and in the absence of specific legislation, Monk's interpretation held (even once there had been houses of correction established). In a later test of this interpretation, the administrator of Lower Canada, Sir James Kempt, refused in 1829 a request from the U.S. government to return an escaped slave, informing that fugitives might be given up only when the crime in question was also a crime in Lower Canada: "The state of slavery is not recognized by the Law of Canada. ... Every Slave therefore who comes into the Province is immediately free whether he has been brought in by violence or has entered it of his own accord."

Nova Scotia[edit]

Monument to abolitionist James Drummond MacGregor – helped free Black Nova Scotian slaves

While many black people who arrived in Nova Scotia during the American Revolution were free, others were not.^[31] Some blacks arrived in Nova Scotia as the property of white American Loyalists. In 1772, prior to the American Revolution, Britain outlawed the slave trade in the British Isles followed by the Knight v. Wedderburn decision in Scotland in 1778. This decision, in turn, influenced the colony of Nova Scotia. In 1788, abolitionist James Drummond MacGregor from Pictou published the first anti-slavery literature in Canada and began purchasing slaves' freedom and chastising his colleagues in the Presbyterian church who owned slaves.^[32] Historian Alan Wilson describes the document as "a landmark on the road to personal freedom in province and country".^[33] Historian Robin Winks writes it is "the sharpest attack to come from a Canadian pen even into the 1840s; he had also brought about a public debate which soon reached the courts".^[34] (Abolitionist lawyer Benjamin Kent was buried in Halifax in 1788.) In 1790 John Burbidge freed his slaves. Led by Richard John Uniacke, in 1787, 1789 and again on 11 January 1808 the Nova Scotian legislature refused to legalize slavery.^[35][36] Two chief justices, Thomas Andrew Lumisden Strange (1790–1796) and Sampson Salter Blowers (1797–1832), were instrumental in freeing slaves from their owners in Nova Scotia.^[37][38][39] They were held in high regard in the colony. Justice Alexander Croke (1801–1815) also impounded American slave ships during this time period (the most famous being the Liverpool Packet). During the war, Nova Scotian Sir William Winniett served as a crew on board HMS Tonnant in the effort to free slaves from America. (As the Governor of the Gold Coast, Winniett would later also work to end the slave trade in Western Africa.) By the end of the War of 1812 and the arrival of the Black Refugees, there were few slaves left in Nova Scotia^[40] (The Slave Trade Act outlawed the slave trade in the British Empire in 1807 and the Slavery Abolition Act of 1833 outlawed slavery altogether.)

The Sierra Leone Company was established to relocate groups of formerly enslaved Africans, nearly 1,200 black Nova Scotians, most of whom had escaped enslavement in the United States. Given the coastal environment of Nova Scotia, many had died from the harsh winters. They created a settlement in the existing colony in Sierra Leone (already established to make a home for the "poor blacks" of London) at Freetown in 1792. Many of the "black poor" included other African and Asian inhabitants of London. The Freetown settlement was joined, particularly after 1834, by other groups of freed Africans and became the first African-American haven in Africa for formerly enslaved Africans.

Upper Canada (Ontario)[edit]

Wikisource has original text related to this article: Upper Canadian Act Against Slavery

By 1790 the abolition movement was gaining credence in Canada and the ill intent of slavery was evidenced by an incident involving a slave woman being violently abused by her slave owner on her way to being sold in the United States. In 1793 Chloe Cooley, in an act of defiance yelled out screams of resistance. The abuse committed by her slave owner and her violent resistance was witnessed by Peter Martin and William Grisely.^[41] Peter Martin, a former slave, brought the incident to the attention of Lieutenant Governor John Graves Simcoe. Under the auspices of Simcoe, the Act Against Slavery of 1793 was legislated. The elected members of the executive council, many of whom were merchants or farmers who depended on slave labour, saw no need for emancipation. Attorney-General John White later wrote that there was "much opposition but little argument" to his measure. Finally the Assembly passed the Act Against Slavery that legislated the gradual abolition of slavery: no slaves could be imported; slaves already in the province would remain enslaved until death, no new slaves could be brought into Upper Canada, and children born to female slaves would be slaves but must be freed at age 25. To discourage manumission, the Act required the master to provide security that the former slave would not become a public charge. The compromise Act Against Slavery stands as the only attempt by any Ontario legislature to act against slavery.^[42] This legal rule ensured the eventual end of slavery in Upper Canada, although as it diminished the sale value of slaves within the province it also resulted in slaves being sold to the United States. In 1798 there was an attempt by lobby groups to rectify the legislation and import more slaves.^[43] Slaves discovered they could gain freedom by escaping to Ohio and Michigan in the United States.^[44]

By 1800 the other provinces of British North America had effectively limited slavery through court decisions requiring the strictest proof of ownership, which was rarely available. In 1819, John Robinson, Attorney General of Upper Canada, declared that by residing in Canada, black residents were set free, and that Canadian courts would protect their freedom.^[45] Slavery remained legal, however, until the British Parliament's Slavery Abolition Act finally abolished slavery in most parts of the British Empire effective 1 August 1834.

Today there are four surviving slave cemeteries in Canada: in St-Armand, Quebec, Shelburne, Nova Scotia and Priceville and Dresden in Ontario.

Underground Railroad[edit]

International Underground Railroad Memorial in Windsor, Ontario

During the early to mid-19th century, the Underground Railroad network was established in the United States to free slaves, by bringing them to locations where the slaves would be free from being re-captured. British North America, now known as Canada, was a major destination of the Underground Railroad. The Canadian public's awareness of slavery in Canada is typically limited to the Underground Railroad, which is the only education relating to the history of slavery that school children typically receive.^{[citation needed]}

In Nova Scotia, former slave Richard Preston established the African Abolition Society in the fight to end slavery in America. Preston was trained as a minister in England and met many of the leading voices in the abolitionist movement that helped to get the Slavery Abolition Act passed by the British Parliament in 1833. When Preston returned to Nova Scotia, he became the president of the Abolitionist movement in Halifax. 

In Ontario, which was called Upper Canada, Shula. Lord Graves Simcoe made a law in 1800 that no one could be born into slavery in Upper Canada.

The former Prince Harry criticized his father re: his treatment of women, the royal family re: racism, & now that he is over here, our first amendment rights. Seems like he is a spokesman for the woke movement...........or maybe just a crybaby?

The former Prince Harry criticized his father re: his treatment of women, the royal family re: racism, & now that he is over here, our first amendment rights. Seems like he is a spokesman for the woke movement...........or maybe just a crybaby?

He's a prize winning wanker is what he is and don't get me started on that gobby piece he's shacked up with,.

Playing the victim is a "woke" tactic and it does not look good on Harry at all.  I think he will lose his "shine" here in America sooner rather than later because his only message is how horribly treated he has been all his life and that gets old after a while.  The media isn't even treating Ellen de Generes well for this very reason.

Who's Woke and what's woke tactics. Please explain.

Give me a break.  Or look it up if you're really serious.

I don't get my news from the internet.  Isn't a woke what the  Asians fry food in? Looks like a wash bowl.

Give me a break.  Or look it up if you're really serious.

I don't get my news from the internet.  Isn't a woke what the  Asians fry food in? Looks like a wash bowl.

You asked about slavery in Canada and I posted it but have heard no reply

You don't even use an internet dictionary?  Gosh, you're a hard man.

I didn't see in your post if Canada has paid reparations for slavery and that's what I wanted to know.