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MarkUK
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Date Posted:30/09/2018 08:03:27Copy HTML

100 years ago today, on 30 September 1918, the Allied armistice with Bulgaria took effect, thus taking Bulgaria out of the war and leaving the Central Powers' southern flank open.

Bulgaria entered the war for the Central Powers in October 1915 having been courted by both sides for months. She did so with the aim of restoring land lost to her neighbours in the Second Balkan War of 1913. Initially successful in occupying some Greek and Serbian territory the war in the Balkans quickly settled into stalemate as the Allies sent thousands of troops to Greece. Offensives and counter-offensives largely failed until the German collapse on the Western Front meant no more reinforcements or war supplies could be spared. The Allied offensive in September 1918 rapidly overwhelmed the Bulgarians and they sued for peace.

The armistice terms wre harsh -

The reduction of the Bulgarian Army to three divisions of infantry and two of cavalry.

The surrender of all war supplies, stores and equipment.

All means of transport, by both land and water, to be put at the Allies' disposal.

Bulgarian territory to be available for Allied operations.

All German and Austro-Hungarian troops to leave with four weeks.

It was to remain in force until the final peace treaty was signed in November 1919.

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Re:Bulgaria Surrenders

Date Posted:30/09/2018 11:47:13Copy HTML

Mark, your whole series on WWI is well done & informative. It outlines the problems that the European countries have had with each other since the beginning of time. Wars, rumors of wars, economic strife, I am beginning to sound biblical on this topic eh? What makes anyone think that the EU can actually succeed given the historic problems the Europeans have with each other? Perhaps GB has done the right thing with Brexit?
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Re:Bulgaria Surrenders

Date Posted:30/09/2018 01:13:51Copy HTML

The EU worked perfectly well when it was designed as an economic union; but it changed its name from the European Economic Community to the European Community then the European Union, that indicated the direction they wanted us to go. Closer political union doesn't suit some of the less well developed east European states and of course migration from Africa and the Middle East has upset the delicate balance too. A number of member states have seen a rise in anti-EU parties in the past few years.


Going back to Bulgaria, the USA only declared war on Germany (April 1917) and Austria-Hungary (December 1917) war was never waged against Bulgaria or Turkey.

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Re:Bulgaria Surrenders

Date Posted:30/09/2018 08:10:03Copy HTML

Mark, your whole series on WWI is well done & informative. It outlines the problems that the European countries have had with each other since the beginning of time. Wars, rumors of wars, economic strife, I am beginning to sound biblical on this topic eh? What makes anyone think that the EU can actually succeed given the historic problems the Europeans have with each other? Perhaps GB has done the right thing with Brexit? What has stopped the wars Tommy and made them all able to suceed is the Nato alliance for the last 70 years. With the countries all together and a united front it makes it much more difficult to pick off the smaller countries one at a time and grab more land which is really the end game and the excuse used in past times. Unfortunitly Trump seems to think that it's all about just money when it's not. It should be about security and world peace.

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Re:Bulgaria Surrenders

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Unfortunately Trump seems to think that it's all about just money when it's not. It should be about security and world peace. Which is not a gift from god, it costs money and when you sign up for protection, you agree to spend 2% of GDP and if you don't you're in breech of contract, you are a burden on the other states, you put all of those states in danger and you are morally wrong.
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I'll be away for the actual anniversary, so I'll put in on today.

On 3 October 1918 Ferdinand, King of the Bulgarians abdicated. He had led his country into war in 1915 alongside the three other Central Powers and had lost. The armistice signed on 29 September made no mention of Bulgaria's future course, but under pressure from the Allied Powers he was forced to give up his Throne to his son who became King Boris III. Ferdinand, who was a Prince of Saxe-Coburg by birth, fled into exile in Germany where he lived to 87 dying in 1948 having outlived his two sons; Boris died in 1943 possibly poisoned on Hitler's orders and his second son Kyril was murdered by Bulgarian Communists in 1945.

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Which is not a gift from god, it costs money and when you sign up for protection, you agree to spend 2% of GDP and if you don't you're in breech of contract, you are a burden on the other states, you put all of those states in danger and you are morally wrong. The 2% rule was not to be fully in force until 2020 or later for all countries and they don't have to reach those goals till then.  This is only a Trump demand. When every one spends more it means that America being the top arms dealer will make more off arms sales to these countries. It's all about what they call American Greed and nothing to do with safety of the free world or peace. Hell they don't even have a healthcare system yet and are telling us to spend what we have on new weapons and employ a larger military. If we buy new weapons then we couldn't afford to increase our military. If we increase are military then we couldn't afford to buy the new weapons. If there was big problems again in Europe would we have to wait for the 3rd time for the Johnny come latelies to show up. We have a guy in charge of this pack, a know nothing who embraces criminals and dictators and even receives love letters from a little fella in north Korea. At the same time he's praising them, he's belittlng his countries closest friends and allies. He tell Germany to stop buying and depending on Russian oil. In the next sentence he says it's ok though because America will sell you oil. Even today after reaching a favourable free trade deal with Canada he still things we are some kind of national security threat and doesn't remove the tariffs on aluminium and steel. He now has the Quebec dairy farmers unset because the States will take another 3.6 % of their Canadian milk market. A lot of those farms have been farmed by the same families and passed down since the 1840's. Hopefully someone soon will take charge of the insanity which seems to be gripping American under Trump's leadership and tell them we all we've made a big mistake in the 2016 elections. The fall elections will go to the side pushing healthcare.

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