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Date Posted:21/08/2018 06:47:48Copy HTML

 Mark, since you are so intent on bashing our beloved President I thought I should post some excerpts from an article about politics in GB.

Appears to be anti-Semitism in Corbyn's Labor Party. Example: it isn't anti-Semitic to compare israel to Nazi Germany, or to claim that British Jews are more loyal to Israel than GB. Instead of outlawing anti-Semitic activity, the party decided to re-define it & punish members who complain. Two Labor lawmakers who lost family members in the Holocaust now face disciplinary action for confronting party leaders.

What a disastrous time for British politics. The ruling Conservative Party is "self-immolating" (had to look that one up), divided between one wing that wants to crash out the EU without a trade deal and another that rightly recognizes such a move would amount to economic suicide. Labor should be demonstrating why it belongs in power, yet instead is also tearing itself in two, with Corbynites attacking moderate Labor lawmakers as imperialist capitalist stooges. Both parties seem to be held hostage by thier most lunatic fringes.

With all this going on in GB, it would seem that thowing stones while living in a glass house is not germane, Mark. As for me........I am feeling great again.

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Date Posted:28/08/2018 07:46:14Copy HTML

Analysis of the vote in 2016 showed my claim to be broadly correct; people with a lower standard of education were more likely to vote Out, especially if they lived in areas with a high immigrant population. Having seen Trump supporters on TV my assumption is that many of them are of a "lesser educational standard".

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Date Posted:28/08/2018 02:43:23Copy HTML

You're a snob Mark
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Date Posted:28/08/2018 05:34:52Copy HTML

I've been called worse.
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Date Posted:28/08/2018 06:43:06Copy HTML

By me actually, but then, I am a good judge of character.

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Date Posted:28/08/2018 09:43:09Copy HTML

By me actually, but then, I am a good judge of character. I've never heard that said before about a Trump supporter. lol

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Date Posted:31/08/2018 08:34:14Copy HTML

No PB, he's a nutter of the first degree, but a great president. 

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Date Posted:31/08/2018 10:01:36Copy HTML

No PB, he's a nutter of the first degree, but a great president. He's a dangerous lieing nutter that's not fit to be called President. Everytime I see a Zombie move on TV I picture Trump supporters. All lost souls, the lot of them. Trouble is for the Demo's finding a desert Island big enough to contain them all on when they take charge again. Might have to borrow some coffin ships from the British to get them to that Island though.

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Date Posted:01/09/2018 07:47:57Copy HTML

Time to up those meds Major, Trump is not a great President, he's best compared to a swindler in an old western who cons the dumb townsfolk that he's got the magic elixir, they fall for it for a while then reality hits them. 
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Date Posted:01/09/2018 08:48:50Copy HTML

Facts speak for themselves Mark. Check out the economic figures from the states right now. No I don't mean PB's stats, he's up with the fairies somewhere.

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That's right Mark, all Trump supporters are a bunch of dumb-ass rubes. Hillary was so much better, smarter, honest. Your arrogance is showing again, Mark.
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Date Posted:01/09/2018 12:10:37Copy HTML

Hilary was only better because she wasn't Trump, beyond that there is very little to say of her. A pair of poor candidates from which to choose.
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Date Posted:01/09/2018 04:52:58Copy HTML

You miss my point Mark, perhaps on purpose. Your disparaging remarks were aimed at Trump voters/supporters not at the candidate(s). To rephrase the question: are Hillary supporters smarter than those of Trump/
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You've got those who'll always vote the same way, even if a pig wearing a rosette is on the ballot paper (we have them too), they are the truly mindless ones. As for the others, perhaps it's the media coverage, but we only seem to see the gun-toting rednecks in big cowboy hats (and that's just the women) who go on about how he's saved America from descending into Socialism and who'll forgive any lie, any deceit because this multi-millionaire is "one of them".

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Nobody seems to be mentioning the recent polls taken to see if Mueller should be allowed to carry on with the Russian investigation. It shows that more of Trumps supporters must be bailing because the numbers for it to continue have greatly increased while the numbers against it have dropped. Also the numbers asking if Trump has been a good President has dropped and the no side has increased. The ones disappointed the most are the low and middle class who think he has done nothing to help them out.  They say the two biggest thinks on Americans minds right now are healthcare and immigration and Trump has failed to deliver on both.

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Donald Trump threatens to terminate NAFTA if Congress stands up for Canada.



WASHINGTON—Facing demands from members of his own party to include Canada in any new North American trade deal, U.S. President Donald Trump threatened Saturday to terminate the existing NAFTA if Congress tries to prevent him from proceeding with Mexico alone.

“There is no political necessity to keep Canada in the new NAFTA deal. If we don’t make a fair deal for the U.S. after decades of abuse, Canada will be out. Congress should not interfere w/ these negotiations or I will simply terminate NAFTA entirely & we will be far better off...” Trump said on Twitter.

Trump struck a preliminary trade deal with Mexico on Monday. Negotiations with Canada, which are logjammed over several unresolved policy issues, will resume on Wednesday.

Seeking to pressure Canada into concessions, Trump has said that he will simply finalize a two-country deal with Mexico, replacing the three-country North American Free Trade Agreement, if Canada does not give ground.

But members of Congress, including Republicans, have insisted that any deal include Canada. And second-ranking Senate Republican John Cornyn, along with independent trade experts, has warned that Trump might not have the legal authority to send a Mexico-only deal through Congress after initially notifying Congress that he was renegotiating a three-country deal.

“My hope is that Canada comes on board rather quickly,” Cornyn said, according to the Washington Post. “I hope we can get this done, and I hope Canada’s on board. Because that would eliminate some of the technical, procedural problems . . . that might otherwise arise.”

A Trump official who briefed reporters on condition of anonymity on Friday argued that the administration does have the authority to make a Mexico-only deal. But the official acknowledged that “at the end of the day, obviously it’s going to be up to the Congress” to make a judgment.

Trump issued the threat as his two predecessors, Barack Obama and George W. Bush, attended and spoke at a National Cathedral memorial service for the late Republican senator John McCain, who did not invite the sitting president. Trump left the White House during the service for his golf club in nearby Virginia.

Trump has threatened since his campaign to withdraw the U.S. from NAFTA, which he called “one of the WORST Trade Deals ever made” in another Saturday tweet. This is the first time he has specifically threatened to initiate a withdrawal in response to Congress refusing to let him go forward without Canada.

Canada and the U.S. negotiated from Tuesday to Thursday without reaching a deal by Trump’s informal deadline of Friday. Shortly afterward, Trump sent Congress a formal notification of his intention to enter into a trade agreement with Mexico — “and with Canada if it is willing, in a timely manner, to meet the high standards for free, fair and reciprocal trade contained therein.”

The notification starts a 90-day countdown to the possible signing of an agreement by the countries’ leaders. But the U.S. could also decide to extend negotiations with Canada well beyond that; there is no requirement that the U.S. and Mexico sign at the 90-day mark.

Trump delivered his threat to Congress and to Canada a day after the Star revealed that he had said, in remarks he intended to be private, that he was not making any compromises at all with Canada and that any deal would be “totally on our terms.” He said he could not say this publicly because “it’s going to be so insulting they’re not going to be able to make a deal.”

Trump complained in two tweets and in a speech about the disclosure of the quotes, which he had made “off the record” to Bloomberg News.

But he also insisted that he did not mind the leak because now Canada knowing his true feelings.

“These are very dishonourable people,” he said Friday of the Bloomberg journalists, though he provided no evidence they were behind the leak. “But I said, in the end it’s OK, because at least Canada knows how I feel. So, it’s fine. It’s fine. It’s true.”

Daniel Dale is the Star's Washington bureau chief. He covers U.S. politics and current affairs. Follow him on Twitter: @ddale8


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You miss my point Mark, perhaps on purpose. Your disparaging remarks were aimed at Trump voters/supporters not at the candidate(s). To rephrase the question: are Hillary supporters smarter than those of Trump/


Don't ask questions like that Tommy unless you want honest answers. lol

If you make an error in judgement and though Trump would be good for the country and now find out he isn't, just admit it and try to do better next time you are handed a ballet. Same as I say to the people in this country who supported Trudeau.


Was surprised to hear McCain wasn't a big supporter of the Christan Right. He had a Baptist funeral or are they two different groups I'm asking about?

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You've got those who'll always vote the same way, even if a pig wearing a rosette


Not in a muslim area Mark.

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The biggest problem with voting how your grandparents voted in America is the GOP (Grand Old Party) isn't grand anymore and most Grandparents if they were still alive would tell you so.

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Facts speak for themselves Mark. Check out the economic figures from the states right now. No I don't mean PB's stats, he's up with the fairies somewhere. My stats come from wall street it's self and I posted the same for you to see. Every countries figures have come up including I imagine Britains. Has not also your employment figures improved since Mar of 2009?

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Politics over here is in turmoil at the moment, more so than when Tommy started this thread. The four largest parties are beset by difficulties. The Conservatives by splits over Brexit; Labour by splits over anti-Semitism and bullying; the SNP by accusations of inappropriate conduct by a former leader and darling of the party and the Liberal Democrats by splits over a suggestion to change the party rules to allow a non-MP to be leader.

Even for the summer "silly season" it's a poor state of affairs. 

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Do you still have a minister of "silly walks?" See Monty Python.
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Politics over here is in turmoil at the moment, more so than when Tommy started this thread. The four largest parties are beset by difficulties. The Conservatives by splits over Brexit; Labour by splits over anti-Semitism and bullying; the SNP by accusations of inappropriate conduct by a former leader and darling of the party and the Liberal Democrats by splits over a suggestion to change the party rules to allow a non-MP to be leader.

Even for the summer "silly season" it's a poor state of affairs. Have you noticed Mark that this all started happening when Trump took over the throne. Just saying eh. 


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Just wondering what Tommy's and Shula's views are on Ruth Bader Ginsburg. For the island people she is a supreme court judge and among the younger generation she's like a pop star. Trumps choice who things that Presidents are above the laws of the nation ( geez wonder why he wants him appointed) and who will probably try to over throw the Roe vs Wade decision which would take away the rights of women to control their own bodies isn't doing the best in the polls. Actually there are more nay's right now that for's The White House has also seen fit to hide paper work from the opposition that could hamper his nomination. I guess this should be expected though when you allow crooks to run the White House.

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Date Posted:03/09/2018 11:37:00Copy HTML

Old liberal Jew who falls asleep during court proceedings. Time for her to "go away."
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Date Posted:03/09/2018 07:24:15Copy HTML

Soon the voting will be controlled by the younger generation. Old farts like yourself might as well sleep in on election day.

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